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A pair of Dwarf Hamsters living happily together?
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Ash
2003-07-21 18:26:59 UTC
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Hi,

Does anyone have any experience of a pair of dwarf hamsters living
harmoniously together under 1 roof?

They will probably be from the same brood and I'd be adopting them
when they are babies. If so, which is less likely to result in fur
chewing contests? a pair of males or females (as I do not want them
to breed)?

Any advice is greatly appreciated! :o)

Ash
Krista
2003-07-21 20:43:03 UTC
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I have successfully kept more then one dwarf under the same roof, 3 boys in
one cage and 2 females in a seperate cage. They are all family. But I didn't
have any luck with another female I got that wasn't related. But I did have
luck reintroducing the boys with there dad when they were old enough to be
seperated from mom. But that's not always the case. But if there from the
same litter, I think theres a better chance of them getting along, in my own
experiences. And getting 2 of the same sex is very wise if you don't want
them to breed ( found that out the hard way.)

Krista
Post by Ash
Hi,
Does anyone have any experience of a pair of dwarf hamsters living
harmoniously together under 1 roof?
They will probably be from the same brood and I'd be adopting them
when they are babies. If so, which is less likely to result in fur
chewing contests? a pair of males or females (as I do not want them
to breed)?
Any advice is greatly appreciated! :o)
Ash
Demonskrye
2003-07-21 21:37:36 UTC
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I've only got a single dwarf, so I don't know if any gender is particularly
less likely to fight. But when you pick out your dwarf hams, you might want to
consider picking up a small cage with space for all the necessary amenities.
If your hamsters start fighting, you can remove one of them in to the small
cage immediately so there aren't any injuries while you're out looking for a
new cage. If the two get along fine, you can use the small cage for
travelling.

Demon and Jinx and Igoo
Vivian
2003-07-21 22:24:04 UTC
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Oh yes, dwarf hamsters are usually quite social and will live in pairs quite
happily. I have 2 girls that are quite compatible.

I suggest just observing the hammy litter before buying them and try to see
if there is a pair that seems to be together all the time--that's the pair
that you want. That's how I picked my girls.
--
Vivian
http://www.20six.co.uk/maroo

"Meet Maroo and Honey, Our Campbell Dwarf Princess Hamsters"
Post by Ash
Hi,
Does anyone have any experience of a pair of dwarf hamsters living
harmoniously together under 1 roof?
They will probably be from the same brood and I'd be adopting them
when they are babies. If so, which is less likely to result in fur
chewing contests? a pair of males or females (as I do not want them
to breed)?
Any advice is greatly appreciated! :o)
Ash
hamstertales
2003-07-22 00:14:52 UTC
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Post by Ash
Does anyone have any experience of a pair of dwarf hamsters living
harmoniously together under 1 roof?
We had two dwarf boys from the same litter, Billy and Baby, who got along
fine. They would wrestle occasionally but never hurt each other or caused us
any alarm. You can read their story here:

http://www.cafebongo.com/hamstertales/

We also had two dwarf boys not from the same litter who got along fine at
first but then had to be separated after several months. (It wasn't a case
of fighting so much as of one hounding the other, who didn't want to fight.)


Ted
MiHoSwEeTi
2003-07-22 06:29:04 UTC
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Post by Ash
Hi,
Does anyone have any experience of a pair of dwarf hamsters living
harmoniously together under 1 roof?
I've had some pairs living together peacefully while they were here. However,
they were fosters and have since been adopted out so I don't know about their
situations now. Unfortunately, the dwarves that have lived here had to live
alone.
Post by Ash
They will probably be from the same brood and I'd be adopting them
when they are babies. If so, which is less likely to result in fur
chewing contests? a pair of males or females (as I do not want them
to breed)?
Any advice is greatly appreciated! :o)
Ash
The current dwarf residents here are sisters, Popo and Poppy. Unfortunately,
Popo attacked Poppy one day after a cage cleaning and they had been separated
to moniter for possible diabetes. I also had a trio of brothers (one half
brother) who were living together peacefully. A few squabbles, but nothing
serious. Unfortunately, I came home one day to one dead ham, and one that had
been bullied into shock... I'll never know what happened during that day, but
it was very sad:(


christine miho
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http://community.webshots.com/user/hamsterhaven
MiHoSwEeTi
2003-07-23 06:25:27 UTC
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Hi Christine,
Yes, that was very sad.... I hope the one that had been bullied has now
recovered.
Cheers, Ash
Unfortunately he died a couple of hours after I got home:(


christine miho
http://community.webshots.com/user/miho176
http://community.webshots.com/user/hamsterhaven
Ash
2003-08-04 12:24:05 UTC
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Post by MiHoSwEeTi
Hi Christine,
Yes, that was very sad.... I hope the one that had been bullied has now
recovered.
Cheers, Ash
Unfortunately he died a couple of hours after I got home:(
christine miho
I'm very sorry to hear that :o(

U mentioned about diabetes in your earlier post- may I ask what are
its symptoms? thanks.

Ash
Mindzai
2003-08-04 04:36:23 UTC
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A few years ago, my brother and I got two dwarfs in one small haibtrail
cage. Splinter and Captain Cumo. My brother would put Splinter in a shoebox
and blow marijuana smoke into the box as to get him high...I guess he did it
so often, tar started building up in his nose and ear canals and breathing
became difficult for him until he finally suffocated. He did live for over 2
years though. He was sooo funny. Captain Cumo was more energetic and once
when we let him out in the room he escaped and some dumbass opened the front
door and somehow he escaped. We never found out for sure, he just 'left'.
Organization: http://groups.google.com/
Newsgroups: alt.pets.hamsters
Date: 21 Jul 2003 11:26:59 -0700
Subject: A pair of Dwarf Hamsters living happily together?
Hi,
Does anyone have any experience of a pair of dwarf hamsters living
harmoniously together under 1 roof?
They will probably be from the same brood and I'd be adopting them
when they are babies. If so, which is less likely to result in fur
chewing contests? a pair of males or females (as I do not want them
to breed)?
Any advice is greatly appreciated! :o)
Ash
Vivian
2003-08-04 17:27:15 UTC
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I'm just holding back barely...if I didn't have a promise to uphold I would
get medieval...

Do not smoke with your hamster anywhere in the vicinity. The hamster is so
small it can't take the levels of toxins that humans can take. If you lived
in my area I would call the SPCA because what you are doing is animal abuse.
--
Vivian
http://www.20six.co.uk/maroo

"Meet Maroo and Honey, Our Campbell Dwarf Princess Hamsters"
Post by Mindzai
A few years ago, my brother and I got two dwarfs in one small haibtrail
cage. Splinter and Captain Cumo. My brother would put Splinter in a shoebox
and blow marijuana smoke into the box as to get him high...I guess he did it
so often, tar started building up in his nose and ear canals and breathing
became difficult for him until he finally suffocated. He did live for over 2
years though. He was sooo funny. Captain Cumo was more energetic and once
when we let him out in the room he escaped and some dumbass opened the front
door and somehow he escaped. We never found out for sure, he just 'left'.
Organization: http://groups.google.com/
Newsgroups: alt.pets.hamsters
Date: 21 Jul 2003 11:26:59 -0700
Subject: A pair of Dwarf Hamsters living happily together?
Hi,
Does anyone have any experience of a pair of dwarf hamsters living
harmoniously together under 1 roof?
They will probably be from the same brood and I'd be adopting them
when they are babies. If so, which is less likely to result in fur
chewing contests? a pair of males or females (as I do not want them
to breed)?
Any advice is greatly appreciated! :o)
Ash
Angela
2003-08-04 17:48:27 UTC
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Post by Vivian
Do not smoke with your hamster anywhere in the vicinity. The hamster is so
small it can't take the levels of toxins that humans can take. If you lived
in my area I would call the SPCA because what you are doing is animal abuse.
If you are planning to "report someone to the SPCA" for animal abuse, please
make sure you are calling on abuse that is currently happening, not something
that happened a few years ago as stated in the original post.

Smoking in the same room as an animal is not considered to be abusive according
to most laws. So calling in this case would not matter, even if it was
happening currently, unless you could prove the animal was having serious
problems from forced inhaling of the fumes.

Smoking pot on the other is not legal, regardless of if there are animals in
the room or not. However, animal control could not regulate the smoking of pot,
that would need to be directed to the police.

By the way, if you are going to quote someone's post, please do it the more
accepted way. Quote only the part you are answering at the TOP, as I have done
here. Then, post your response. It makes it easier for all concerned to read
and follow along.

Angela (Aol.com doesn't hop!)

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Vivian
2003-08-04 18:23:15 UTC
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The troll wrote the following:

"My brother
would put Splinter in a shoebox and blow marijuana smoke into the box as to
get him high...I guess he did it so often, tar started building up in his
nose and ear canals and breathing became difficult for him until he finally
suffocated. He did live for over 2 years though. He was sooo funny."

I believe that's abuse. Yes, I know that it may not be happening now,
however, if it was I would do my best to get that poor animal out of there.

Plus, it is a carefully crafted post that lets Mindzai post without
receiving any blame for the outcome. His brother abused the hamster, not
him. The hamster is already dead and it happened in the past.

Who cares right? It's just a stupid hamster, right? Good God, why do I
even bother.

Vivian
http://www.20six.co.uk/maroo

"Meet Maroo and Honey, Our Campbell Dwarf Princess Hamsters"
Smoking pot is illegal in my area unless it is for medical reasons. It is
harmful in large amounts--as is any substance.
Second hand smoke killed my aunt, and my grandmother. And it is even more
toxic when it comes from joints. So please, if I feel that I need to call
the SPCA for something I feel is harmful to animals that certainly don't
need THC in their bodies I will do my best to do what I can to help them
out.
They won't do anything anyway but at least I tried.
And you are right, I would also need to call the police.
--
Vivian
http://www.20six.co.uk/maroo
"Meet Maroo and Honey, Our Campbell Dwarf Princess Hamsters"
Mindzai
2003-08-04 20:12:45 UTC
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why do you bother? I was just adding my two cents. This occurred years ago
and can't be taken back. Also, we never used joints, only glass. And where I
live, its ok for medical reasons, which is why we had it. Your aunt died
from second hand mj smoke? Can you elaborate on that? It alarms me, over
what period of time was she exposed? What exactly did she die from (heart
attack, cancer, etc)? another thing viv, im not a troll.....look it up
Newsgroups: alt.pets.hamsters
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 18:23:15 GMT
Subject: Re: A pair of Dwarf Hamsters living happily together?
"My brother
would put Splinter in a shoebox and blow marijuana smoke into the box as to
get him high...I guess he did it so often, tar started building up in his
nose and ear canals and breathing became difficult for him until he finally
suffocated. He did live for over 2 years though. He was sooo funny."
I believe that's abuse. Yes, I know that it may not be happening now,
however, if it was I would do my best to get that poor animal out of there.
Plus, it is a carefully crafted post that lets Mindzai post without
receiving any blame for the outcome. His brother abused the hamster, not
him. The hamster is already dead and it happened in the past.
Who cares right? It's just a stupid hamster, right? Good God, why do I
even bother.
Vivian
http://www.20six.co.uk/maroo
"Meet Maroo and Honey, Our Campbell Dwarf Princess Hamsters"
Smoking pot is illegal in my area unless it is for medical reasons. It is
harmful in large amounts--as is any substance.
Second hand smoke killed my aunt, and my grandmother. And it is even more
toxic when it comes from joints. So please, if I feel that I need to call
the SPCA for something I feel is harmful to animals that certainly don't
need THC in their bodies I will do my best to do what I can to help them
out.
They won't do anything anyway but at least I tried.
And you are right, I would also need to call the police.
--
Vivian
http://www.20six.co.uk/maroo
"Meet Maroo and Honey, Our Campbell Dwarf Princess Hamsters"
Vivian
2003-08-04 21:24:49 UTC
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I don't bother. It doesn't matter to me what happened to something in the
past. What's been done is done. It disturbs me but what can I do but hope
for karma to do it's thing.

As for my aunt and grandmom, they both died from cigarette smoke from their
respective husbands who smoked until their last days.

I don't care what you do. Just try not to get your pets into the bong. You
can smoke up all you want! Rejoice, life is short, might as well get high.
--
Vivian
http://www.20six.co.uk/maroo

"Meet Maroo and Honey, Our Campbell Dwarf Princess Hamsters"
Post by Mindzai
why do you bother? I was just adding my two cents. This occurred years ago
and can't be taken back. Also, we never used joints, only glass. And where I
live, its ok for medical reasons, which is why we had it. Your aunt died
from second hand mj smoke? Can you elaborate on that? It alarms me, over
what period of time was she exposed? What exactly did she die from (heart
attack, cancer, etc)? another thing viv, im not a troll.....look it up
Newsgroups: alt.pets.hamsters
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 18:23:15 GMT
Subject: Re: A pair of Dwarf Hamsters living happily together?
"My brother
would put Splinter in a shoebox and blow marijuana smoke into the box as to
get him high...I guess he did it so often, tar started building up in his
nose and ear canals and breathing became difficult for him until he finally
suffocated. He did live for over 2 years though. He was sooo funny."
I believe that's abuse. Yes, I know that it may not be happening now,
however, if it was I would do my best to get that poor animal out of there.
Plus, it is a carefully crafted post that lets Mindzai post without
receiving any blame for the outcome. His brother abused the hamster, not
him. The hamster is already dead and it happened in the past.
Who cares right? It's just a stupid hamster, right? Good God, why do I
even bother.
Vivian
http://www.20six.co.uk/maroo
"Meet Maroo and Honey, Our Campbell Dwarf Princess Hamsters"
Smoking pot is illegal in my area unless it is for medical reasons. It is
harmful in large amounts--as is any substance.
Second hand smoke killed my aunt, and my grandmother. And it is even more
toxic when it comes from joints. So please, if I feel that I need to call
the SPCA for something I feel is harmful to animals that certainly don't
need THC in their bodies I will do my best to do what I can to help them
out.
They won't do anything anyway but at least I tried.
And you are right, I would also need to call the police.
--
Vivian
http://www.20six.co.uk/maroo
"Meet Maroo and Honey, Our Campbell Dwarf Princess Hamsters"
alexandra
2003-08-04 20:42:25 UTC
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Post by Angela
Smoking in the same room as an animal is not considered to be abusive according
to most laws. So calling in this case would not matter, even if it was
happening currently, unless you could prove the animal was having serious
problems from forced inhaling of the fumes.
This is not a case of the animal being in the same room as a pot smoker,
but of a pot smoker deliberately intoxicating the animal for fun. far
worse. sadly however, they still may not be able to do anything.
Post by Angela
By the way, if you are going to quote someone's post, please do it the more
accepted way. Quote only the part you are answering at the TOP, as I have done
here. Then, post your response. It makes it easier for all concerned to read
and follow along.
i don't mean to undermine you here (top posting irritates me too),
but while we are on the subject of readability, it's generally
considered better to avoid HTML posting like in your signature.


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